be at loggerheads with (one) (over something)(redirected from be at loggersheads with them over it)
be at loggerheads with (one) (over something)
To be in a conflict or dispute with one (over some issue). A "logger" is a 16th-century term for a block of wood, so a "loggerhead" is a blockhead or fool. Tom is at loggerheads with the other members over the best way to lead the committee. I've been at loggerheads with the neighbors all summer because of their obnoxious dogs.
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at loggerheads, to be
To disagree, dispute, or quarrel. A logger was a heavy wooden block, and one meaning of “loggerhead” is “blockhead,” a stupid person or dolt. Possibly this meaning led to the phrase “at loggerheads,” with the idea that only dolts would engage in a quarrel. Shakespeare used the word as an adjective in The Taming of the Shrew (4.1): “You loggerheaded and unpolish’d grooms.” The full current expression appeared in the late seventeenth century.
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